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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:31 pm
by paul-pgss
In that case: I couldn't agree with you more.

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:53 pm
by kuhn
I love some of Tatu's songs.

Elforel's point was, should we be ashamed? :lol:



I only wish I knew Russian!

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:25 am
by Elforel
At least someone saz through that nonsensical ramble of mine!!!
Thanks Kuhn!!!

Is there any special reason why you wish you could understand russian? I mean-more than all the other languages...

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:38 am
by witchy
Elfy, if you're wondering about shame, you should be ashamed! :wink:

Rob, I don't want to be a stay-home mom either, I don't think I could. I'd enjoy my baby as I want to, but I know myself, I tend to withdraw if I'm alone enough time, I'd end up wanting to do less and less...The economical part is important too, we could make it with my partner's salary only, but he'd have to work on week-ends too then and we'd hardly see each other, not really my idea of a family. Also, I just started REAL work, I'm not sure I'm ready to give it up already when I haven't had a carrier yet...lots of things to consider. The only sure thing is that if I keep feeling this alienated at work, I will have to take a decision, one way or another. First I wanna see if I get back into the right rythm or not. I haven't stopped missing Iker anyway, this is such a wonderful period, he's growing so quickly...

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:52 pm
by ruth1998
witchy wrote:Elfy, if you're wondering about shame, you should be ashamed! :wink: ...
Ditto. You should never mention your liking of TATU again!

(even though your mention of them possesed me to go out and buy their first cd yesterday...i wasn't even looking, it just popped up!! I've been listening to it ever over and over since i bought it. It brings great memories back. Oh, college days)

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:25 pm
by RobB
Sara, perhaps a compromise of working part-time and gradually easing your way back into working full time would have been easier for you? :)

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:07 pm
by witchy
I am working 4 days already! I will give it some time before giving up anyway :)

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:32 pm
by daniel
Tatu is like candy. Enyable for the moment but ultimately unsatisfying (and maybe even bad for you) in the long run.

Sigur R?s is like a proper meal. Maybe not as colorful or fun as candy... but it satisfies you in the long run and it's good for you.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:58 am
by ruth1998
daniel wrote:Tatu is like candy. Enyable for the moment but ultimately unsatisfying (and maybe even bad for you) in the long run.
here, here. Too much causes severe damage and nausea.

I don't know Sigur Ros, so i can't say anything about that.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:01 am
by Elforel
ruth1998 wrote:
witchy wrote:Elfy, if you're wondering about shame, you should be ashamed! :wink: ...
Ditto. You should never mention your liking of TATU again!

(even though your mention of them possesed me to go out and buy their first cd yesterday...i wasn't even looking, it just popped up!! I've been listening to it ever over and over since i bought it. It brings great memories back. Oh, college days)
Exactly! :P :D

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:57 am
by kuhn
Elforel wrote:At least someone saz through that nonsensical ramble of mine!!!
Thanks Kuhn!!!

Is there any special reason why you wish you could understand russian? I mean-more than all the other languages...

I really want to learn a new language.

But I'm afraid it's too late? :?

Did you study Russian at University?

I just downloaded some more Tatu songs. :mrgreen:

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:12 am
by Elforel
ahah!
Well, Kuhn,to be honest-my russian is very bad... I have never learnt it properly, all i know i know it from the street and everyday life, although my wife is russian.
Now I have to take classes myself because next year we probably won't be here anymore...
It's never too late Kuhn, you can probably learn it if you really want to!
It's not easy though...

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:16 pm
by blue
witchy wrote:Elfy, trying to be strong, but having come back to work didn't do me any good. I was there only two weeks before getting ill and I was already exhausted. Milkpumping and working are hardly compatible, it made me feel emptied and I have to do it in the toilet for handicapped people :shock: !! My flu is over so I must go back to the office, but I get pain in my stomach for the nerves. I'm even supposed to be fighting for yet another big promotion while at the moment I'm totally NOT there, still is now or never... [b)] I'm so sick of everything...
I know, nothing to do with the poll, I just had to tell someone...still, Iker liked Sigur Ros live too!!! 8)
Sorry to pull the topic away from the Sigur Ros v. Tatu battle (I vote Tatu, by the way. Heard some Sigur Ros on the radio the other night and didn't actually recognise it as music. Something wrong with me, obviously. :D), but I'm so sad to hear you've been struggling, Sara. I worked full time on a nightshift when my daughter was little, I felt I had no choice as I was a single mother and didn't want to be dependent on benefits. At times though I used to just sit and cry in sheer exhaustion and frustration - I seemed to have no life at all, and I hardly got to see the child I was working so hard to support. I'd see her for a little while in the early morning after I got home from work, take her off to nursery, then go home and get my sleep. She'd be picked up from nursery at lunchtime by the childminder, then passed on to my mother when she got home from work at 3pm. I'd then see her again for about two hours around teatime, before I had to go off to work again at 6.30pm. She had to sleep at her grandmother's of course, so she was hardly spending any time at all in her own home/bed.

Eventually, the whole rigmarole took its toll. My daughter became a stroppy and withdrawn toddler, refusing to do anything I told her, and in the end she wouldn't even say goodbye to me in the evening when I went off to work. I can't describe how upsetting it was. At that point, realising that my child was in distress and our bond was breaking down, I gave up work. I decided I would rather suffer the guilt and stigma of living on benefits for a while than put our emotional well-being at any further risk.

It was the best decision I ever made. With her mum at home full-time, she rapidly blossomed into a happy, carefree little girl, which was all that mattered to me.

Everyone has to find their own solution to this dilemma - I admire any woman who can get the balance right and manage to have a working life without affecting her children too much, because it's the toughest thing in the world to do. I found it much easier later on, when I had a partner and my daughter was in school. I worked part-time in school hours only for a while, which gave us the best of both worlds. But when they are tiny .... lord, it's so hard. :(

Love and luck whatever you decide to do, Sara. :wink:

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:07 am
by kuhn
Elforel wrote:ahah!
Well, Kuhn,to be honest-my russian is very bad... I have never learnt it properly, all i know i know it from the street and everyday life, although my wife is russian.
Now I have to take classes myself because next year we probably won't be here anymore...
It's never too late Kuhn, you can probably learn it if you really want to!
It's not easy though...
Sorry for the late reply (due to personal issues...)


Well. I am fascinated by the language and culture. Sorry for the lame answer, it's late and I'm so tired. :lol:

I'm sure it's not easy. If you don't mind me asking, how did you end up living in Russia - I remember you mentioned something at CQD about a teaching at a school?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:48 am
by Elforel
Dear Kuhn, I am sorry to reply so late:! I was busy for a while!
Yeash , i had found a great job in Russia (teaching and more) and so i came...
Then i met my wife, got married and now...my contract ends in August and we are looking for a job anywhere in the world for next september.we might end up teaching english in China...it's poor salary but an interesting experience.
If you are thinking of coming to Russia, you can write to me and ask any questions you want my friend!