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Oh lord, it's Stars In Your Eyes with the Tori of Former Glory. :shock: :lol:

My guess is she is doing:

01. Alannah Myles
02. Bonnie Tyler
03. Pat Benatar
04. Toni Basil
05. Y Kant Tori Read

She may as well reissue her debut, at least The Big Picture is so bad you can enjoy it's camp hair rockness....you can't even enjoy Big Wheel... :!:
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I'm writing to Epic to insist that they provide me with some sort of counselling/therapy. :shock:
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RobB wrote:
sound world wrote:It's hilarious reading you guys on all this,as a kind of innocent bystander :D
Keep it up!! 8)
I was just thinking the same thing Dave. :lol:

I was also thinking that if Stina has read this thread that she might be going back and having another listen to her new album,just to make sure that it is as good as she thinks it is. :wink: :lol:
Damn straight. [fire] :D

I have no worries with Stina's new album. Unlike Miss T, Stina can back up her high opinion of herself with great music. :wink:

Seriously, Rob, come back and laugh when you've heard those clips.
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d.a.walker wrote:
My guess is she is doing:

01. Alannah Myles
02. Bonnie Tyler
03. Pat Benatar
04. Toni Basil
05. Y Kant Tori Read
:D :oops: :D

She did say that she's using a vintage Yamaha CS80 on this record. Which happens to be the first keyboard KATE BUSH used when she began exploring electronic instruments - it's the one that provides the unmistakeable motif on 'Babooshka', amongst other things. The potential of this information fills me with terror. :shock:


d.a. walker wrote:She may as well reissue her debut, at least The Big Picture is so bad you can enjoy it's camp hair rockness....you can't even enjoy Big Wheel... :!:
So many people on the boards are saying the new clip sounds like YKTR era.

God - do you think the 'five different female musicians' could be five different eras of Tori?!! The world could explode with that level of pretentious self-reverence unleashed into it. :shock:

You know, I'm starting to think this album could be the biggest laugh I've had for years. I might buy it. :D :D
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Oh dear god. I've just found a post by someone on MTF with verifiable sources who says that T is going to be donning different wigs every night of the tour. :shock:

It's finally happened. Tori Amos has officially lost her mind. :D
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Oh I dunno.Certain folk we know don different wigs every time they step out the door. :wink:

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You have a point. :D

But really, the concept stuff has gone way too far if all this is true. I want Tori Amos back, goddammit. I'm tired of the woman we will call Fakey McBullshit. :evil:
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First glimpse of how the album sounds, thanks to CoolingBoi over on MTF:

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I haven't heard this album, and cannot answer any further questions outside of what is posted here. A very trusted friend of mine heard this album in confidence, one time, and took notes.

Yo, George- Solo with piano. Political in nature, poetic.

Big Wheel- What's in the clip is what's on the record.

Bouncing Off Clouds- The name says it all. Upbeat and poppy.

Teenage Hustling- Kick-ass rock song. Loud guitars, circa 70's hard rock.

Digital Ghost- Reminiscent of the Beatles. Nice Harmonies. Most radio friendly.

You Can Bring Your Dog- Grooving Southern rock in the vein of Little Amsterdam. Crunchy Guitars.

Mr. Bad Man- 70's pop, kind of like a tv theme song from that era.

Fat Slut- Guitars, Distorted vocals, ANGRY.

Girl Disappearing- Beautiful, Lush orchestration. Think Baker Baker, Doughnut

Secret Spell- Like the clip

Devils and Gods- Acoustic guitar and vocal only. Pretty interlude.

Body and Soul- Dirty Rock. Religious overtones, great groove, loud, Best live song potentially.

Father's Son- Slow, atmospheric, dark, eerie, great percussion, beautiful.

Programmable Soda- Cute, whimsical, Brass/horns. Strings. Reminiscent of Daisy Dead Petals.

Code Red- Dark, Piano driven slow rocker. Good lyrics. Moody. Awesome ending.

Roosterspur Ridge- Obligatory sappy ballad. Tori doing 80's pop-metal ballad.

Beauty of Speed- Great groove, beat heavy verses, uptempo rock. Think Siren/Butterfly "with a bigger bottom"

Almost Rosey- Mixed feelings. Verses are okay, driving beat, lame chorus.

Velvet Revolution- Spanish flavor. Flamenco guitar/mandolin.

Dark Side of the Sun- Epic of this album. Anti-War. Rock. Great ending.



We know that review copies are being sent out right now, and the poster is reliable, so this is probably legit.

Initial thoughts - concerned about the 'dirty southern rock' ones, after hearing the Big Wheel clip. Looks like Girl Disappearing, Velvet Revolution and Dark Side of the Sun have the most potential to not completely suck donkey balls. Programmable Soda could be good if it really is akin to Daisy Dead Petals, one my favourite bees. Father's Son sounds interesting.

This guy's friend said the overall vibe of the album is rocking out, that it's much better than TBK. But I seem to remember a lot of excited 'OMG it's great!!' reviews of TBK from fans initially as well, so I'm not getting any hopes up. If there are two or three decent songs on this one I think we'll be doing well.
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Sounds like the best plan of action is to wait three months and pick up a cheap copy in the bargain bins. 8)

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I definitely won't be buying it straight off after hearing the clips, which is a sad first for me with Tori. :(

It's bound to leak soon, so if there are two or three songs I really like I'll pick up a copy secondhand from Amazon and burn them, then sell it again. :D
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Here's a new article which might be of interest.

http://www.tingen.org/toriamos07.htm

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Thanks for the link, Rob.

Ugh. Looks like 'the woman we call Tori' is still being put on like a costume, then. :roll:

What's so annoying about it is that, when she's just being herself, she's unselfconscious, spontaneous, funny, as the journalist says. This is how she used to be all the time, and her music reflected that. It was personal, vivid, full of fire and sparkle and sadness and wisdom. All the things that drew people to her in the first place. Now it's 'the woman we call Tori', a self-conscious creation, who's purpose apparently is to preach a message.

This album has been approached in just the same way as The Beekeeper - music created to preach a message. Not music made for its own sake, because she felt inspired. And what the hell - she's 'going after the 18 year olds'? She wants to 'empower' them? Um ... this is clearly what she meant with that comment at the meet and greet, about the new record 'inspiring generations'. Honest to god, Tori, you need to wake up to yourself. 18 year old girls are not going to give a damn about your new record. They're listening to Justin Timberlake for the most part, and the intelligent ones looking for something more, a role model, are probably listening to PJ Harvey. They don't know who you are, love.

What comes across very clearly here is that Tori herself wants to be 'cool with the kids' again, the way she very briefly was around Pele. She wants that level of mainstream fame, just like I thought. And she apparently can't see that at 43, she's not going to achieve that no matter how much she waters down her music and betrays everything she used to claim was so important to her - her freedom as an artist, her integrity, her musical standards. The kids are not going to care. :roll:

All she's achieving with this strategy is to make herself look increasingly desperate and ridiculous to the entire music business and media, even to her own hugely devoted fanbase.

So much for all her talk during TBK project about 'growing old gracefully'.
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Why did I read that interview??????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

You know I can put on the beekeeper and enjoy parts of it, like Sweet The Sting and the title track, but I have a feeling with this album I may want to play tori frisbee.

I was hoping for a strong, angry, violent record that she seemed to hint at. However it's gonna have almost a negative effect, no doubt some people out there will think it is 'her best work', I'm just gonna find it a laugh.

Interestingly regarding PJ Harvey, her new album is almost entirely piano based, which should make very very interesting listening. Bjork has worked with Timberland, however, and I am scared!!!!!!!!! (in the bad way, please please for the love of god, no Bjork Justin Furtado Guðmundsdóttir!) :shock:
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According to multiple sources, the new Björk album is just as non-mainstream as we hoped it will be, it'll just have some harder beats again like on Homogenic. and i'm quite happy with that :)

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Yep.Bjork still has a 100% record in this opinion.It's worth reflecting that the 'dissonance' and experimentalism that some people objected to in 'Medulla' has been used in serious music for getting on for a century.God bless Bjork for pushing the boundaries still.

For those of you getting fed up with Tori Amos,try a few of these women musicians who also have managed to build a career without producing a serious lemon,IMHO:-

Joni Mitchell
Lili Boulanger
Bessie Smith
Judith Weir
Sandy Denny
Carla Bley
Jocelyn Pook
(and Stina Nordenstam :D )

You might expand your musical horizons somewhat,too. :wink:

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