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sick sad world
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:04 pm
by alx5962
Megan Meier, who had trouble controlling her weight and was self-conscious about it, was thrilled when a 16-year-old hottie calling himself Josh Evans approached her online one day and asked to be added to her MySpace friends list. The two became fast friends, though they never met in person. Then one day Evans turned on Meier and began sending her hateful messages. His negative comments grew in intensity and left Megan feeling deeply wounded. Already prone to depression and low self-esteem, she took the attacks on her worth to heart and hung hanged herself.
Six weeks after their daughter's death, Megan's parents (above) learned that "Josh Evans" was a pseudonym created by the mother of one of Megan's former female friends and a man who worked for the mother. The woman's daughter had had a rocky friendship with Megan, and the two girls had parted ways -- as teens often do. So the mother, who lives down the street from the Meier family and socialized with them, created the Josh Evans account to gain Megan's trust and find out what she was saying about her daughter online. But, according to statements that the Journal says the woman made to police, others got into the game as well. Ultimately things got out of hand, and the Josh Evans account was used to woo Megan and fool her into believing that an attractive stranger liked her in order to then humiliate her.
Re: sick sad world
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:54 pm
by RobB
A sign of the times unfortunately that someone can be 'firm friends' with someone they havn't met.

Re: sick sad world
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:37 pm
by sound world
That is terrible.
Oddly enough I was reading something the other day about a Father who masqueraded as a teenage girl on Facebook or similar to try and find out what his own daughter was up to with her friends.He seemed to think it was perfectly acceptable to do this.

Re: sick sad world
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:14 pm
by blue
sound world wrote:That is terrible.
Oddly enough I was reading something the other day about a Father who masqueraded as a teenage girl on Facebook or similar to try and find out what his own daughter was up to with her friends.He seemed to think it was perfectly acceptable to do this.

I'll never understand how some parents fail to grasp the concept that their children are individuals, with a right to their own privacy - a right to be
themselves. It's perfectly reasonable to worry what your kids are up to, but there comes a point where you have to accept that they are people in their own right and it's not up to you to try to control them or their lives. All you can do is try to instill decent values in them as they grow, hope for the best, and stand by to help if they do get into any trouble.
Spying on them like that is downright creepy.
Re: sick sad world
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:20 pm
by blue
alx5962 wrote:
Six weeks after their daughter's death, Megan's parents (above) learned that "Josh Evans" was a pseudonym created by the mother of one of Megan's former female friends and a man who worked for the mother. The woman's daughter had had a rocky friendship with Megan, and the two girls had parted ways -- as teens often do. So the mother, who lives down the street from the Meier family and socialized with them, created the Josh Evans account to gain Megan's trust and find out what she was saying about her daughter online. But, according to statements that the Journal says the woman made to police, others got into the game as well. Ultimately things got out of hand, and the Josh Evans account was used to woo Megan and fool her into believing that an attractive stranger liked her in order to then humiliate her.
And WTF is it with these mothers who get involved like this in their kids' spats with friends? Jesus. Sometimes I despair of the human race.
Re: sick sad world
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:10 am
by d.a.walker
Once again advances in technolohgy and in particularly the internet highlights the cruelty of people more clearly than ever. Bullying videos on Youtube, text message bullying and intimidation, Facebook deceptions, MSN chatroom abuse, and now Myspace is being drawn into a growing list of easy victimisation options. Maybe it's because it's all too easy for people to carry out this, the technology is so readily accessible, so they think why not. There are so many angles for people to hurt other people now it is truly frightening. When I was at school it was a matter of being wary of the dangers of strangers, and being frightened of the kids bullying you in the school yard. With the internet, such predators and these acts of bullying get into the homes of the victims through computers and mobiles phones and leave them feeling there is nowhere to be or feel safe. And you know what I can't see things getting any better to be honest, it's all too easy now, things are done remotely from a distance with no time for thinking about consequence or repercussions. It disturbs me at how easily people now allow their biased and irrational emotions to carry act such awful, cruel acts, simply by pressing send or enter.

Re: sick sad world
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:52 am
by gerryuk
Sad to report in a similiar vein, we had a item on our local news the other day about a very brave young girl 14 who has become quite well known locally for writing a blog on how she is dealing with her cancer and the radiotherapy treatment she receives. Sadly someone has started e-mailing her, making fun and bieng generally abusive to her culminating in the person saying how they are going to murder her!!!!!!, it just defies believe that anyone could be so dispicable.
Generally I believe the internet is a great thing, but sometimes you seriously wonder.
Re: sick sad world
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:09 pm
by alx5962
In the wake of a horrific story of petty revenge, myspace and the suicide of 13-year-old Megan Meier this community's patience has dried up. The furious neighbors -- and in the wake of recent media reports, an outraged public -- are taking matters into their own hands.
In an outburst of virtual vigilantism, readers of blogs such as RottenNeighbor.com and hitsusa.com have posted the Drews' home address, phone numbers, e-mail addresses and photographs.
Dozens of people allegedly have called local businesses that work with the family's advertising booklet firm, and flooded the phone lines this week at the local Burlington Coat Factory, where Curt Drew reportedly works.
"I posted that, where Curt works. I'm not ashamed to admit that," said Trever Buckles, 40, a neighbor whose two teenage boys grew up with Megan. "Why? Because there's never been any sense of remorse or public apology from the Drews, no 'maybe we made a mistake.' "
Local teenagers and residents protest just steps from the Drews' tiny porch. A fake 911 call, claiming a man had been shot inside the Drew home, sent law enforcement officers to surround the one-story, white-sided house. People drive through the neighborhood in the middle of the night, screaming, "Murderer!"
The Drews, who have mounted cameras and recording devices onto the roof of their house to track the movements of their neighbors, declined to comment for this article.
Re: sick sad world
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:53 pm
by blue
Was any official legal action taken against the mother/boyfriend/family? This kind of vigilantism tends to happen when there's been no percieved justice for the victim, no official sanction of the perpetrator. The need for those who do harm to others to feel the consequences of their actions is so powerful in human beings, if the official structures we've set up to enact justice are seen to fail, the vigilante mentality can take over.
Such a sad, wasteful situation. All because some moron lacking the emotional maturity to be a mother had to breed.

Re: sick sad world
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:35 pm
by alx5962
A chef accused of murdering young British model Sally Anne Bowman did not know his victim was dead until after he stopped having sex with her corpse despite finding her in a pool of blood, a court heard.
Mark Dixie, 37, was branded "disgusting" by his own defence barrister for letting "his lust to get the better of him", the Old Bailey was told.
Dixie denies killing Bowman but admits he took "advantage of the situation" after discovering the 18-year-old's dead body in the street in Croydon, south of London, the jury have heard.
Bowman was stabbed at about 4am in Blenheim Crescent, Croydon in September 2005, shortly after being dropped off close to her home by her boyfriend, prosecutors said.
Dixie says he stumbled on the blonde's naked body by chance as he staggered home drunk after celebrating his birthday that same night.
Prosecutors have said sex acts were performed as Bowman lay dying or was dead in a pool of blood, including sexual intercourse.
Re: sick sad world
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:43 pm
by blue
I love the way 'his lust overcame him' is trotted out as an excuse for rape even when the victim is
dead. Is there no circumstance under which these irresponsible women can refrain from inciting a poor chap?
I don't know what's more disgusting and offensive about that phrase, the complete inability to grasp the enormity of the behaviour or the implication that having sex with a dead body is somehow within the normal spectrum of male 'lust'. I'm pretty sure the reaction of most men on stumbling across a woman lying dead or dying in the street would not be to rape her.
Hopefully the life imprisonment of this fine example of human trash is a mere formality. He's known to have attacked and possibly killed other women in the past, as well as having a conviction for sexual assault, so there's little doubt he's responsible for the death that so excited his lust.
Re: sick sad world
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:05 am
by d.a.walker
Christ the capabilities of people really is plumbing new depths every day.
What makes it more disturbing for me is that it's not even surprising or unexpected that this could happen. With the media/news reporting so efficient in it's outreach, if you watched and read the news continually you wouldn't even raise an eyebrow. This would just be another example of humanity at it's lowest affecting someone you don't know.
I've limited myself to how much news I'm exposed to, mainly because I don't want to become desensitised to the impact of such dreadful acts. There are people I know who will talk about events like this casually as if it were gossip, and unsurprisingly they watch the news every night at 6pm and read the newspapers everyday, all of which are full of varying stories bombarding you with the plights of the world.
A friend of mine left a promising career as a news anchor for precisely the reason of becoming so caught up in 'the story', she started to become numb to and forgetting the impact of the hard cold facts. Her first reaction to the prospect of going out to report on a car accident would be on the number of people dead and the more the better as 'that makes good news'. When she realised what it was turning her into she instantly quit.
What the media fails to really convey anymore is the appalling sense of tragedy, but instead showing favour for shocking headlines that make you pick up the paper or not change the channel. However their tactics of delivering news ruin just as many lives as the events they are reporting.
You cannot even begin to imagine the devestation the boyfriend and family of the poor girl are feeling, let alone the explicit details of her death to be so highly publicised. For me that adds to the sick sad world factor. I certainly would be unable to comprehend with such intrusion and lack of sensitivity. How can they grieve when the news will continue to open the wounds as long as there is a story?
Re: sick sad world
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:31 am
by blue
Very well expressed Daniel, and I'm sure most of us would agree wholeheartedly. Sally-Ann's murder has received a huge amount of coverage in the UK press ever since it occurred, and some of the dwelling on explicit details of the sexual violence involved has at times felt very unhealthy. One wonders how her family have got through it, particularly as the publicity around the case seemed, at one point, to be provoking a harrassment campaign agains the family by someone claiming to be the killer. Sally-Ann's mother and sisters were targeted, told they were being 'watched' etc, with the implication that one of them was next. Whoever was responsible for those communications was clearly enjoying the drama they created in the media.
Re: sick sad world
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:52 pm
by alx5962
Italy's highest court has ruled that a woman wearing jeans cannot be raped.
The Supreme Court of Appeal in Rome on Wednesday overturned a rape conviction, saying that the supposed victim must have agreed to sex because her jeans could not have been removed without her consent.
A court in the southern town of Potenza had convicted a driving instructor of raping his 18-year-old pupil.
The instructor, aged 45 and identified only as Carmine, had been sentenced to 34 months' jail.
His defence had argued that the young woman - identified as Rosa - had consented to sex, a version of events which the woman strongly denied.
The Supreme Court ruled that it was impossible to remove a pair of jeans "without the collaboration of the person wearing them", and that the young woman must therefore have consented to sex.
In a judgement likely to anger women's rights organisations, the rape conviction was reversed.
Re: sick sad world
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:34 am
by blue
Ah yes, a new variation on the old 'you can't thread a moving needle' excuse.
Perhaps one day people will grasp the idea that a woman who's about to be raped will often tend to do what she's told for fear of being subjected to even more violence, possibly losing her life.
It's a bit like saying, for instance, a bank manager who opens a safe for a robber pointing a shotgun in his face has 'consented' to have his money stolen, so therefore the robber has committed no crime. Utterly ludicrous, and you can bet your life if a court ever made such a decision in those circumstances there would be uproar.
I hope right-thinking people in Italy and elsewhere will make their feelings known about this, and maybe get a review of the decision. If this is allowed to stand, it's basically a green light for rapists to attack women wearing trousers, safe in the knowledge that a legal precedent has been set and they'll get away with it. There are already too many rapists getting off scot-free due to neurotic ideas about women that still prejudice cases. It's outrageous that a victim of crime should be denied justice for any reason, but for living in a female body? Um, yeah ... no. Unacceptable.
Honest to god. When will women ever stop being punished for being women?
