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Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:39 pm
by RobB
Just want to highlight again those three songs, supposedly written by Stina, which were logged with the BMI company in the US in the mid-nineties.
The songs were:
Changing Fortunes Of Suzanne D
In The Middle Of July
Real Life.
Was there ever a conclusion to the mystery regarding these songs? :)

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:43 pm
by sound world
The person who discovered that info (I rescued the bit of thread from the ashes of the Barbieboard) was more specific about the date of the songs,'circa 1993'. :mrgreen:
BMI (whose website,www.bmi.com, doesn't seem to be working :?: ) is (one of) the American equivalent(s) of PRS in this country,along with ASCAP.
From Wikipedia-
'BMI tracks public performances 6.5 million works and collects and distributes licensing revenues for those performances as royalties to over 350,000 songwriters, composers and music publishers it represents, and thousands of creators around the world who have chosen BMI for representation in the U.S.'

Which suggests that Stina/or her management/or publishing company in Europe,wanted to clear those songs for potential performance/broadcast probably in the US.So perhaps they're outtakes from ASCHE??

Some more rarities from the Swedish National Archive of Broadcasting -

'UMEA JAZZFESTIVAL 1989 (broadcast on Swedish Radio 2 in 1989-in Swedish Nat Archive of Recorded Sound and Moving Images)
Stina Nordenstam with Ensemble 'Encore' .
His Song/She bought a rope/San Telmo/In Distance/Recharge/Whisky at Samiento
(The UMEA Jazz festival took place on 4th November 1989 )

(This database also allegedly contains a broadcast video 'Showtime' which includes Stina). :shock:


And the by now largely discredited rumour put about by somebody on an old messageboard,that Stina allegedly took part in these (completely untraceable) recordings:-

(with Magnus Shoval)-Tjaer stjomar (Icelandic folksong),in album 'Jag er vagan' 1993 Ranerop records.
(with Sasha Erikson)-Sad Lullaby/Down by the seaside,in album 'Never see it coming' 1992 Enigmatic :roll:  records.

If anyone finds any trace of those two,please wake me up. :mrgreen:

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:11 am
by alx5962
http://www.umeajazzfestival.se/default. ... 84&id=8077

1989 ( 26-27 okt, 2-4 nov )
Cassandra Wilson and trioEncore med Stina Nordenstam/Anders Persson duo

1990 ( 25-27 okt, 1-3 nov )
Berndt Egerbladh kvintett med Stina Nordenstam och Johan Hörlén

1991 ( 23-27 okt )
Stina Nordenstam

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:45 am
by RobB
It is very strange that had the artist/album existed that there wouldn't have been more references to Sasha Erikson & 'Never See It Coming' on the internet. Especially after sixteen years. :(
Even allowing for mis-spelling of the artists name,no amount of permutation of names/song titles throws up any info in Google. It does seem then that it was just a hoax that never existed beyond the Stina's forums.

I am surprised though that the CQD team didn't step in to squash the hoax from the start though. Surely they would have known? :?

I think Magnus Shoval's 'Jag Er Vaganm' was a four track single as opposed to being an album.

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:24 pm
by sound world
alx5962 wrote:http://www.umeajazzfestival.se/default. ... 84&id=8077

1989 ( 26-27 okt, 2-4 nov )
Cassandra Wilson and trioEncore med Stina Nordenstam/Anders Persson duo
Wow,now there's a gig I'd like to have attended,two of my favourite singers,albeit a bit before either of them was at their best.And Mr.Persson is an excellent pianist,witness his various solos on versions of 'His Song'.
RobB wrote:I think Magnus Shoval's 'Jag Er Vaganm' was a four track single as opposed to being an album.
And I think that's a hoax too,I've tried Googling every permutation of his/the album/the record company's name.

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:05 pm
by RobB
Just been looking at the old CQD Discography and its rather telling what they don't list as opposed to what they do. :(

Follow this link and click on 'Collaborations'.

http://web.archive.org/web/200401092058 ... om/albums/

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:16 pm
by sound world
Were you able to get anywhere other than 'Collaborations',RobB? I couldn't get any of the albums to come up.

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:45 pm
by RobB
No,the album links were leading to a 'not in archive' page,mores the pity. :(

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:03 pm
by aermancer
sound world wrote:
RobB wrote:I think Magnus Shoval's 'Jag Er Vaganm' was a four track single as opposed to being an album.
And I think that's a hoax too,I've tried Googling every permutation of his/the album/the record company's name.
I'll say, the only google entries for "Magnus Shoval" link to this thread :P

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:36 pm
by paul-pgss
sound world wrote:(with Magnus Shoval)-Tjaer stjomar (Icelandic folksong),in album 'Jag er vagan' 1993 Ranerop records.
We can say for sure that stina participated with Magnus Shoval. I remembered that she commented on the barbieboard that she had completely forgotten about the collaboration. With that comment she confirmed that the collaboration took place.

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:28 pm
by sound world
I remember that-but was it really Stina? :O
And why can no trace of this record ever be found??

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:47 am
by paul-pgss
According to Vero, that was really Stina.

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:54 pm
by RobB
pgss wrote:According to Vero, that was really Stina.
But was that really Vero? :mrgreen:

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:11 pm
by sound world
:mrgreen:
Kind of sums up the whole situation with regard to Stina. :wink:

Re: Stina's songs missing in action!

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:49 pm
by RobB
Everyone loves a mystery 8)