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Idiots- Lars Von Trier
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:49 pm
by whatis
i wanna watch Idioci!!! anybody did? I love this poster, don't you?

So far, have only watched that documentary on him, Breaking the Waves, part of the one starring Bjork and some episodes of the Kingdom. But not the great big Dogma movie, Idioci....
How to paste pictures in this forum?? okay done! thanks, Franck~ hey no kiss smily!

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:32 pm
by Franck
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:13 pm
by kuhn
Question: Was this movie banned in this countries or something?
Either way, getting the DVD can perhaps be a bit hard when you live in Asia?
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:37 pm
by whatis
kuhn wrote:Question: Was this movie banned in this countries or something?
Either way, getting the DVD can perhaps be a bit hard when you live in Asia?
no pro, i can get a doctor friend to order it for me or something on a credit card.

heheh. well. i could always take a holiday in Denmark or wherever this movie was made and buy the damn thing. as it is, i can't even get TWIS here, whaddaya think?

this is porno posing as docudrama, right? i'm just intrigued by the poster as doc's intrigued by Winona...
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:30 am
by barrett
Hi Coral,
I was just reading a review of "15",a film shot in the Singapore "low life"district full of drugs and crimeand wondered if youd seen it ?
It looked kinda interesting
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:34 am
by kuhn
whatis wrote:kuhn wrote:Question: Was this movie banned in this countries or something?
Either way, getting the DVD can perhaps be a bit hard when you live in Asia?
no pro, i can get a doctor friend to order it for me or something on a credit card.

heheh. well. i could always take a holiday in Denmark or wherever this movie was made and buy the damn thing. as it is, i can't even get TWIS here, whaddaya think?

this is porno posing as docudrama, right? i'm just intrigued by the poster as doc's intrigued by Winona...
I think it was sent, slightly edited of course, on tv once. I viewed the beginning, and I didn't like it that much.
I just find it wannabe-shocking.
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:32 am
by whatis
barrett wrote:Hi Coral,
I was just reading a review of "15",a film shot in the Singapore "low life"district full of drugs and crimeand wondered if youd seen it ?
It looked kinda interesting
i've seen the short uncensored version. But before it was to be released to its own public, it had to be censored, and there was a big hoo-la from the director about it.
i found all the local dialect very endearing. but the subject-matter was cliched. the production was colourful, but the plot and script lacked that extra something. it was just celebrating the right to film something that most people don't talk about in the country.
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:16 am
by whatis
kuhn wrote:Question: Was this movie
I think it was sent, slightly edited of course, on tv once. I viewed the beginning, and I didn't like it that much.
I just find it wannabe-shocking.
thanks for it, Kuhn!!! i've pm'ed you back...
i think the beginning of some movie's slow. i don't like Dogville either, and i barely could make it past VCD side 2...
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:47 am
by daniel
Dogville and Dancer in the Dark are two of my most favourite movies ever!!!
But the kind of movies thay are you don't exactly want to see them all the time ... too many dark feelings. Lars vont Trier really knows how to hit your spots, he's scary that man, I think he finds pleasure in making movies that torture people ... I guess the sight of Bj?rk dying is too traumatic for me hahahahahaha....
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:48 am
by paulr
I loved "Riget" the series von Trier did. I have it on 4-DVD and watch it over and over again.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:21 am
by Elforel
Well, i am surprised not to see Alex coming in here to praise LVT!
I have already said a lot about him on the other board, I think he is a very talented director but i just hate the way he manipulates us and his sadistic pleasure in mistreating women...
Idiots was indeed a very interesting movie, raising issues that are never talked about otherwise. But Coral, this is not at all porn!

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:04 pm
by alx5962
In fact I wasn't inspired to argue my point of view about this movie.
I like it and I really think this movie is really misundestood because people just talk about the porn scene and never about the pain of a mother.
But I guess it requires a lot of effort to see beauty of the inside when we only notice the ugliness of the outside
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:05 am
by Analissa
I?ve seen Idioterne almost a year ago? and I still don?t know what to think of it. Honestly, I can?t really understand the aim of this movie.
I somehow feel it?s a bit profane. It makes an spectacle out of people who pretend to be idiots but aren?t really mentally handicapped, which I find slightly repulsive.
Maybe LVT was just trying to react against intellectualism?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:25 am
by alx5962
Analissa, the movie is thesecond of the "golden heart" trilogy.
So the main aim is so related to this trilogy : the sacrifice of a woman to her beloved person (her husband or her son).
And a good question to ask is why do they act as if they are idiots and not to judge them at first.
Trilogy?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:24 am
by Elforel
Well, I actually think Idiots was not a bad movie, and as you notice i don't even REMEMBER a porn scene. [b)]
But I am confused about the Golden heart [:xx] Trilogy, I thought it was composed of Breaking the Waves (destroying Emily Watson), Dancer in the Dark (destroying Bjork) and Dogville (humiliating Nicole Kidman).
So I was wrong it seems...
Oh, wait, wasn't Dogville the start of another cycle? Can you enlighten me on this Alex (or anyone)?