a walk in the park?

mat · Post by **mat** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:58 pm

does someone know something about stina's own label "a walk in the park"? does it have website? where is it located (wich country/city)? adress? telefone number..? has she published any other artists than herself? would like to know.

Post by **kuhn** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:16 pm

Send a personal message to pgss - I think he has the e-mail to Stina's management.

But:

I don't think there is a web page.

mat · Post by **mat** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:14 pm

thanks! waiting for a reply from pgss now.

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:13 pm

Hehehe... I think A Walk in the Park is just Stina and Ian Greenfell (manager)... and I suppose it's located in Stina's appartment in Stockholm.

And I suppose calling it a full record label is to exaggerate.

Post by **sound world** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:23 pm

'A walk in the park ' is a publishing company.Anyone who writes a song which is released on record must have it lodged with a publishing company,which are very often set up like 'real' companies-you just register a name.Whether music is subsequently published is kind of beside the point.
I have never seen any Stina songs in print (musically) and I doubt I ever will unless she gets a hit.Chances are if that happened that the published music would be pretty substandard-it usually is in the case of pop/rock artists where 'composition' is usually an oral tradition.

whatis · Post by **whatis** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:18 am

Chances are if that happened that the published music would be pretty substandard-it usually is in the case of pop/rock artists where 'composition' is usually an oral tradition.

could you elaborate on that, Dave? sounds quite interesting!

mat · Post by **mat** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:01 pm

ok, thanks!

daniel - do you have any idea where in stockholm she lives? I live on S?der myself, would be kind of nice to bump into her by accident and buy her a coffee in exchange for some good musical advice..

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:38 pm

^No idea. I don't think I even WANT to know where she lives. And I can't imagine how Stina would react having suchg an encounter with a fan... my guess is that it wouldn't be too pretty. But hey! You never know... If you happen to bump into her (or recognize her first and foremost), please let us know how it sent.

mat · Post by **mat** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:54 pm

I will. don't think I'll ever meet her but she is one of those few people that seem to have a kind of wisdom and musical understanding far greater than most. tom waits is another. imagine a sit down with some whiskey and an old record player together with the two of them..!

wirbel · Post by **wirbel** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:03 pm

I wouldn't expect Stina to live in Stockholm; people would recognize her somehow wouldn't they? nah, she's probably living in a cabin on one of the islands of the Stockholm skjaergarden..

So mat, have you been to the Stina exhibition though???

Post by **sound world** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:13 pm

whatis wrote:Chances are if that happened that the published music would be pretty substandard-it usually is in the case of pop/rock artists where 'composition' is usually an oral tradition.

could you elaborate on that, Dave? sounds quite interesting!

Sure.What I meant is-most pop/rock performers don't 'write' their music.They might write some chords and they may very well write down the lyrics,but if someone else wants to play the music,either in tablature ('tab'=guitar figuration) or in conventional score (so that the melody and harmonies are written out,as well as the chord symbols),they either have to work it out for themselves or go and buy the printed music if there is any.
And then you discover that the great majority of transcriptions in music books aren't up to scratch,eg the harmonies/chord symbols are inaccurate,the rhythmic notation is faulty etc etc.Obviously there are some honourable exceptions.And,as a rule,these books are very expensive.

For a fairly visible example-take the Beatles.About 20 years ago a book was published called 'The Beatles Complete',which held sway in music shops for a very long time.It had some nice pictures in,and the word 'complete' made it very tempting.Trouble is,for starters,it's not complete-by some way.And then-the songs are written in completely different keys from the recordings/whole verses of lyrics are missing/the chords are frequently wildly inaccurate/and whole sections of the songs-instrumental lines,middle 8's,bridge passages etc are completely absent.At bottom it's a book for cheesy club organ players doing background muzak.But an awful lot of people own that book and probably regret it.
Set against that the 'Beatles-Complete scores' which appeared a few years back.Four Japanese guys took it upon themselves to notate everything the Beatles ever recorded,but properly.So the book is set out with each guitar,piano,bass etc part on its own line,all faithfully rendered,chord charts above;every single song is notated,even 'Revolution 9',all the lyrics (and interjections) are there,following every twist and decoration in the melody,and even Ringo's drum parts are faithfully transcribed,beat by beat.Truly a labour of Herculean endeavour,a job done properly,albeit somewhat fanatically and anally.But it's the reference benchmark if you really want to see how the dots go on any given Beatles tune.

But it depends what level you want..Personally,as a musician,I like to see the job done properly.I do a lot of transcription of music,for various aspects of my work,and I'll always do it myself rather than consult a book.And i rescue a lot of people-my pupils,other music teachers,jazz players etc-from buying substandard books by transcribing songs for them.
So...if anyone wants a proper chart of a Stina song,get in touch! I've done a few of them,for pleasure,and I can always do more of them happily.
And by the way,I think Ian Grenfell's management is called 'Silentway',isn't it?

mat · Post by **mat** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:05 am

no, haven't been to the stina exhibition yet, don't think i know what it's about... what exactly is it and where? magasin 3?

Silentway, thanks.

wirbel · Post by **wirbel** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:26 pm

Here's the thread about the exhibition in Stockholm for which Stina made a piece; funny no one has seen it yet, but i'm sad i didn't go..

http://www.paulsinnema.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=233

and yes, it's in magasin3

Post by **kuhn** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:01 am

mat wrote:no, haven't been to the stina exhibition yet, don't think i know what it's about... what exactly is it and where? magasin 3?

Silentway, thanks.

You should really go!

mat · Post by **mat** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:34 am

I?ll go this saturday. sounds interesting:

........................................................................................

Welcome to MAGASIN 3 PROJEKT

2 June ? 2 October, 2005
at Djurg?rdsbrunn, Stockholm

JURGEN BEY, MARTI GUIX?, ANNA KOCH, STINA NORDENSTAM

Magasin 3 projekt 2005 presents four people from completely different disciplines. They work i ways that take their respective fields a step further and expand them beyond definitions. Jurgen Bey (Rotterdam) and Marti Guix? (Barcelona), both designers, present installations inside the building and in the garden. Choreographer and dancer Anna Koch (Stockholm) and music artist Stina Nordenstam (Stockholm) present new works.

Starting with the signification of dust, Jurgen Bey creates a series of overlapping installations with objects made of unexpected materials. Marti Guix? creates a Catalan design museum with his own works, which, as an illegal street market, takes over the exhibition space. Anna Koch is interested in the manifestation of thought in movement. In her work, which will con-tinue to develop throughout the summer, visitors and invited dancers form part of the choreography. Stina Nordenstam presents a sound installation in the gazebo at djurg?rdsbrunn. It is a mixture of documentary narrative and fiction, com-bined with newly composed music. The work deals with catastrophes, traumas, UFOs and love.

Magasin 3 Projekt is open 2 June - 2 October. Thursday 12-7 pm,
Friday-Sunday 12-6 pm. Free admission.

Visiting address: Djurg?rdsbrunnsv?gen 68, Stockholm.
Tel: +46 8 661 54 80, e-mail: projekt@magasin3.com

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/mat